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Last week I came across the astounding video of Southern Baptist missionary Paul Washer’s sermon before a congregation of young  people, and I immediately became a fan. Early that week I had written that I wish I knew one minister of God with the guts, conviction and initiative of someone like conspiracy hunter Alex Jones, and it seemed as though here I had found one.
I was deeply moved by Washer’s conviction during the speech, and wholeheartedly agreed with everything he said about the pitiful condition of Western Christianity, and also loved his television interview one can find on Youtube.

However, there was one thing that kept haunting me in a negative way about his sermons, and that was that he seriously seemed to question people’s Salvation, and his way of mocking the way most of us have learned to win souls, namely by asking them to pray with us to receive Jesus as their Savior.

While it is true that we should make sure we are saved, and that we make our Salvation work out for us in this life with “fear and trembling,” and it may also be true that Jesus never asked anyone, “Would you like to receive Me in your heart?” and that repentance is way more than that, at the same time it also remains true that “Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved,” (Acts 2:21), no matter what Paul Washer, Roy Comfort or anyone else may tell us!

It also remains a fact that “Whosoever believeth on the Son hath eternal life” (John 3:36), and that “as many as received Him to them gave He power to become sons (children) of God” (John 1:12) and that He even stands at the doors of the hearts of the lukewarm church and knocks, and “if any man hear My voice, I will come in to him and sup with him and he with Me” (Rev.3:20).

And there is no amount of “godly zeal” that could ever destroy the universal truth of John 3:16, that “God so loved the World (yes, the whole world, including not only lukewarm Western Christians and Jews, but even Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists and the whole shebang) that whosoever believeth in Him should have eternal life.”

I have also spent some years on Latin American mission field and have had to cope with the vast difference between the fire and fervor among Christians there and the blatant lack of it in the West. Things quite simply never were the same. It took me years to get over it.

But I don’t find any use whatsoever in raising doubts over anyone being saved or not, or in speculating over the percentage of Christians in the West that are actually saved or not. We should remain focused on getting those saved who pretty much are sure they’re not.

As far as the “sinner’s prayer” is concerned, brother Paul, it definitely did work for Me, when I was 13, although I didn’t immediately turn out to be an overnight wonder, and although I probably couldn’t get you to keep doubting my salvation until the end of our lives.

All I know is that before I was blind, and now I see. Before I was deaf, and now I hear. Before, there was emptiness, and now there is Jesus. And I won’t let anyone’s words, may they be ever so eloquent or “anointed,” take that away from me, and I would seriously issue a warning to anyone attempting to do that to anyone else. Unfortunately it is often those endowed with the greatest amount of truth that will cause the greatest harm to God’s work, as evident in the sad example of the Pharisees in Jesus’ time and the incessant persecution of believers by the established churches for centuries.

In my opinion, “being saved” is not always something plainly evident, since it can take years for that seed of having received Jesus in our hearts to sprout and surface. We will be rewarded according to our works (without which our faith is dead,) but we are never saved by them (Eph.2:8,9, see also 1Cor.3:11-15).

People who go around repeating how they doubt the Salvation of others must either be paranoid that there won’t be enough room in Heaven for everyone, or the prospects of so many less deserving than they winding up in the same place anyhow makes them feel less “special.”

There are hundreds of verses in the Bible about the vastness of God’s mercy, but we don’t seem to grant our lesser brethren that mercy. Perhaps that’s why Jesus told those among us with a tendency toward self-righteousness, “Go and learn what this means: ‘I will have mercy, not sacrifice’” (Mt.9:13)

It also reminds me of the parable of the workers who volunteered to work in the Husband’s vineyard but didn’t go, while those who said they weren’t going to, actually wound up doing the work. You never know who’s going to pick up the plough you left in the field when you got overwhelmed by your frustration and bitterness.

Of course, one factor that probably influences the “No, you’re not saved” attitude of some is the false belief in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. I whole-heartedly agree that most of today’s Christians would not “deserve” just being whisked out of this world before the great purification of the church the Antichrist and the Tribulation are purposely destined by God to bring about.
But that’s not what the Scriptures say anyway, if you care to read them properly.

As far as there not being enough space in Heaven for all of us, though, I’d leave the worryin’ to God on that one.

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3/1/08

I’ve been watching the first 7 issues of Chuck Missler’s Revelation video series on Google Video last week, and while I am thankful for the elaborate background information Missler gives on the deeper significance that lies in the Letters to the 7 Churches, there are also points in which I personally feel he’s totally off the track, such as the erroneous Pre-Tribulation Rapture, of course, but also his identifying Babylon the Whore as literal ancient Babylon in Iraq. I’ve also read portions of Dave Hunt’s book “A Woman Rides The Beast,” which Chuck Missler repeatedly recommends, to see whether I would be able to reconcile with the tought that Babylon the great Whore as described in Revelations 17 and 18 could perhaps be Rome, but also in this case, I must acredit those two Americans’ interpretation of those Scriptures to the same – typical for Americans – wishful thinking that misleads millions of Christians to belief in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

While it is certainly true that Rome and the Catholic Church are guilty of the blood of innocent millions, and it’s certainly true that the remnant of what used to be true Christianity that they are presenting to the world as such is blasphemous and certainly good reason for God’s indignation, it takes Americans to fail to recognize that the slaughter, rape of the truth and untold bloodshed perpetrated by their own country over the past centuries makes even Rome look innocent and saintly by comparison.

Of course, recognizing this fact takes a willingness to face the truth and to see beyond the “America the Beautiful” image that most Americans and part of the rest of the world (still) are enchanted with, and a look beyond the official version of history; a look behind the curtains as to who really financed and instigated the first two world wars, the Russian Revolution, and literally every other war during the past few centuries of our world’s history.

The bloody tracks lead to another “great and mighty city” that “sitteth upon many waters” and plays the tunes to which all nations really dance, be it financially, culturally or polictically. A city, so great and mighty, in fact, that modern day Rome looks like a little village in comparison, the skyline of which you see daily on TVs, billboads and web pages or in movie theatres all over the world

There is even a town called “Babylon” on Long Island, New York. As (not only) Insiders know, the Statue of Liberty is in reality an idol representing the Babylonian goddess Semiramis, watching over her favored child.

Just read for yourself the verses about “Babylon the Great Whore” which shall be destroyed in one hour, and make up your mind, whether this is most applicable to the Italian city of Rome, the – howbeit rebuilt – ruins of ancient Babylon in Iraq, or the City which not only houses the United Nations, the Council on Foreign Relations, but also the financers behind it all, including the very material they’re forcing on our kids in school as “truth” every day: Rockefellers & Co.

If you’re in touch with reality at all, and you’re bold enough to face the ugly truth about your beloved and oh so great country, you’ll see that the other 2 alternatives are pitifully erroneous wishful thinking cooked up by people whose loyalty is rather to the flag of their country than the cross, when Jesus told His disciples clearly that they were not of this world, just as He wasn’t.

America, it’s time to open up your eyes that the rest of the world is seeing through your camouflage of “democracy.” You’ve just become another big bully world empire, dictating your views on the rest of the world, you’re the greatest oppressor of the poor and innocent this world has ever seen in its pitiful history, and you’re going to reap what you’ve sown. God promises it, and there won’t be any “Pre-Tribulation Rapture,” either, to save you out of it! Oh, and did I mention it? Your President is a mass murderer, – and he’s not the first in line – going down in history as another infamous villain like Hitler and Stalin, who were ultimately brought into power by your money in the first place, too.

What you may not know is, that the Beast you’re riding on, that wonderful and glorious “New World Order” your head honchos like Bush Sr., are so eagerly promoting, will turn against you, rend you in pieces and devour your flesh. Read Revelations 17 and 18 for what they are! Read and weep!

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Feb.22, ‘07

Most of our Christian friends believe in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture*; in other words, they’re convinced that Jesus is going to pick them up (to Heaven) before the 3 ½ year period of the Antichrist’s reign after having broken the “Holy Covenant,” the peace treaty among the world’s leading religions (Judaism, Islam and Christianity), the quarrels among which are presently the greatest remaining threat to world peace. *(Rapture: also referred to as The 2nd Coming of Christ.)

One friend told me on the phone yesterday, “I don’t need all that persecution & stuff.” She simply chose to believe the easy-way-out myth in spite of the hard in-the-face evidence from the Bible (which most obviously prefer to skip in their readings).

What a bunch of wishful thinkers mainstream Christians are. I think it shows that our friend was wrong: If there’s anything Christians need, it IS the great Tribulation, and the Bible tells us why:

In the first description of the 3 ½ year period of the Great Tribulation, given to us by the prophet Daniel in Daniel 12, we find one of God’s purposes for this, doubtlessly most troublesome time of world history: “Many shall be purified and made white, and tried” (Dan.12:10).

I believe the church still needs to be purged thoroughly from its lukewarmness, its infatuation with materialism and the world (as in: the System) per se.)

Mentioning and quoting from the book of Daniel Jesus, in Matthew 24:29-31 makes it totally plain that “immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall … appear the sign of the Son of man (Jesus) in heaven. And … His angels… shall gather together His elect (chosen ones)…”

Some Pre-Tribbers claim that He was referring here to the Battle of Armageddon, but if this is not a clear description of the Rapture, I don’t know what is.

Incidentally, we have Him mention here (verse 31) the “great sound of the trumpet,” which we find again in three other references to the Rapture: In his first description of the Rapture, Paul tells us, in 1.Corinthians 15:52-53: “I show you a mystery: We shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

In his first letter to the Thessalonians (chapter 4:16, 17) Paul writes about this terrific incident, which marks the end of the world as we know it: “For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, and with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with Him in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air.”

In the Book of Revelation we find out what Paul was referring to as the “last trump” in 1Cor.15:53.” When the Lamb of God (Jesus) opens the 7 seals of the future in John’s visions, upon opening the 7th seal, 7 angels appear with trumpets, each heralding another cataclysmic Endtime event (see Rev.5-10). When finally the 7th angel sounds his trumpet, we read: “In the days of the 7th angel, when he shall begin to sound, they mystery of God should be finsihed, as He hath declared to His servants, the prophets” (Rev.10:7).

Finito. In other words, there won’t be another 3 ½ years of world history left to go, but it’ll be all over now, baby blue! All that awaits earth then is the wrath of God, followed by the Battle of Armageddon, initiating the tousand years of Christ’s reign on Earth.

But there are two more indications of why Jesus won’t come back before the Tribulation:

In 2Thessalonians 2:1-11 Paul cautions us not to believe the fairy tale that Jesus could come back any moment (which most Preachers will tell you, while telling you of their new 10 year building project of their new church in the next breath), but that Christ could not return unless there should have been a great falling away from the faith first, and the “son of perdition” (the antichrist) should be revealed, sitting in the temple, proclaiming to be God. We know that the AC (antichrist) will only sit in the temple after breaking the Holy Covenant (see Daniel 11:30,31). But Paul even goes as far to explain why many Christians choose to believe the easy-way-out fairy-tale, in verses 10 and 11: “Because they received not the love of the truth…God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.”

Some folks are simply not that fond of the truth, and rather settle for the much easier to believe lies the Enemy is handing us.

Finally, we find the church (church= “ecclesia”= the called-out ones) of Christ in Revelation 12, not being lifted entirely out of this world during the 1260 days or 42 months of the Tribulation, but merely brought to a safe hiding place in the wilderness. We also find the two faithful witnesses in chapter 11 prophesying for the full length of the Tribulation.

Seems to me like there’s no easy way out, folks! It’s natural not to want to go through such a time, it’s natural to be scared, but that’s why we’ve got supernatural means to acquire a supernatural faith to rise above our natural tendencies to be cowards and wishful thinkers…

In my opinion, with all this evidence pointing toward a Post-Tribulation Rapture, it would sound a lot wiser to be prepared for it, as our good old Dad always used to say: “Better have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.” Better get some faith today and not be making in your pants tomorrow when you might find the Antichrist at your door and Jesus refusing to come any earlier than He always said He would.

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